To all, keep it civil.

Religious debate always sparks the violent and carnal in us all...

At the end of the day, it boils down, to treat others, as you would have them treat yourself.

The question in my opinion should rather be:"Where are we going?", as opposed to:"Where did we come from?"

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I am a Christian, and a firm believer in God Almighty! I do not judge people from other religions and the people who do not believe in anything.

Yes each of us have our own right to a opinion, and I am sure every single person on this planet has faith/hope of something, no matter what, weather it is to grow old enough to see your grandchildren, or weather it is that you have faith that you are going to get something, or even travel the world...everyone's got faith in something, if it is religious or not!!!


Here is a nice read, that I love giving to people!

Even though it says atheist and christian, just see it in the light that I tried to explain!!! (I am not hitting on any religion!!!)


AnAtheist Professor of Philosophy was speaking to his Class on the problemScience has with GOD, the ALMIGHTY. He asked one of hisnew Christian students to stand and...

Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, son?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, you believe in GOD?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD good?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of cancer even though he prayedto GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others whoare ill. But GOD didn't. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?
(Student was silent)
Professor : You can't answer, can you? Let's start again,young fella. Is GOD Good?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from?
Student : From...GOD...
Professor : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in thisWorld?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And GOD did makeeverything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil? (Student did not answer)
Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who created them?
(Student had no answer)
Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify andObserve the World around you. Tell me, son...have you ever seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smeltyour GOD? Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for thatmatter?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still believe in HIM?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, DemonstrableProtocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say tothat, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes, Faith. And that is the problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?
Professor : Yes.


Student : No, sir. There isn't...
(The Lecture Theatre became very quiet with this turn of events)
Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even MoreHeat, Superheat, Mega Heat, White Heat, a Little Heat or No Heat. ing called Cold. We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which isNo Heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thingas Cold.
Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat. Wecannot Measure Cold. Heat is Energy.
Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.

(Therewas pin-drop dilence in the Lecture Theatre)

Student : What about Darkness, Professor? Is theresuch a thing as Darkness?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness isthe Absence of Something. You can have Low Light, NormalLight, Bright Light, Flashing Light... But if you have No Lightconstantly, you have nothing and its called Darkness, isn't it? Inreality, Darkness isn't. If it is, you would be able to makeDarkness Darker, wouldn't you?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student : Sir, my point is, your Philosophical Premise isflawed.
Professor : Flawed? Can you explain how?


Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise ofDuality. You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD anda Bad GOD. You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite,something we can measure. Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought. It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much lessfully understood either one. To view Death as the Opposite of Life is tobe ignorant of the fact that Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing. Death is Not the Opposite of Life: just the Absence of it Now tellme, Professor, do you teach your Students that they evolved from aMonkey?

Professor: If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes,of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with yourown eyes, sir?

(TheProfessor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going)

Student : Since no one has ever observed the Processof Evolution at work and Cannot even prove that this Process is anOn-Going Endeavor, Are you not teaching your Opinion, sir? Are younot a Scientist but a Preacher?

(The Class was in uproar)

Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has everseen the Professor's brain?

(The Class broke out into laughter)

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard theProfessor's
brain, felt it, touched or smelt it?...

No one appears to have done so.
So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have No Brain, sir. With all duerespect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The Room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable)

Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.
Student : That is it sir...Exactly!
The Link between Man & GOD is FAITH.
That is all that Keeps Things Alive and Moving.


That student was ALBERT EINSTEIN .

Strangely, someone in my iaido class was talking about patarfarianism the other day. it sounds reasonable...

Just to turn this back to a T discussion.... I think that T's resemble the Flying Spaghetti Monster... So they must be holy creatures Bwahahahahahaha

1: Who knows that our planet is losing it's magnetical field.
By the rate at wich it is losing it's magnetical field, you can calculate ( by science ) that 10000 years ago it would be impossible for life to exist on this here planet, due to heat generated by magnetical field.
Now you could argue the whole reversal of magnetical field thing, point is this has never been witnessed.
2: How would one date someting like Dino bones: They will tell you the bone gets dated by the rock it is found in.
Then how do one date te rocks: they will thell you to date them by the bones you find in them.
To me that is circular reasoning... wich by the way has no foundation to stand on.
3: As pierre has put it there has NEVER been ANY proof of large scale evolution EVER.
The only leg of evolution ever witnessed would be micro evolution, wich is things like chioaoas and wolves, they are all dogs but are different, BUT are still DOGS.
4: The only reason evolusionists still hang onto the theory is that if evolution is wrong they would have to believe in a God.

One clever guy once said: If there is a God it's scary
If there is no God it's even more scary...

RippeR wrote: 1: Who knows that our planet is losing it's magnetical field.
By the rate at wich it is losing it's magnetical field, you can calculate ( by science ) that 10000 years ago it would be impossible for life to exist on this here planet, due to heat generated by magnetical field.
Now you could argue the whole reversal of magnetical field thing, point is this has never been witnessed.
2: How would one date someting like Dino bones: They will tell you the bone gets dated by the rock it is found in.
Then how do one date te rocks: they will thell you to date them by the bones you find in them.
To me that is circular reasoning... wich by the way has no foundation to stand on.
3: As pierre has put it there has NEVER been ANY proof of large scale evolution EVER.
The only leg of evolution ever witnessed would be micro evolution, wich is things like chioaoas and wolves, they are all dogs but are different, BUT are still DOGS.
4: The only reason evolusionists still hang onto the theory is that if evolution is wrong they would have to believe in a God.

One clever guy once said: If there is a God it's scary
If there is no God it's even more scary...

1. A magnetic field doesn't generate heat hehehe?! Please first find out why the earth has a magnetic field and why we need it... tip its not for heat control.
2. Dino bones it self is carbon dated not the rock its found in :blink: . Please try and know what you are talking about. Do you even know what carbon is? And my version of the bible skips the dino creation all together. The devil must have planted them to test our faith. Good thing too cause we needed the oil
3. Umm not sure if you know this but evolution happens over many years even eons, And now contradicting your self lol Dogs and wolves come now really?? Wolves are wolves but still dogs :woohoo: Ummmmm what came first I wonder... the chioaoas or the wolves? Maybe a wolf mated with a chipmunk and wala a chioaoa was born hehehehe I like the way you think.
4. Lol you really belive that dont you? Just on that note... ummm just wondering how Noah managed to fit all these animals on on bout... sorry mean ark? Did the wolf mate with the chipmunk before or after.... Now im wondering lol.

Evolution is fact like it or not. If you ever come to Magliesburg side I will take you to the cradle of human kind and show you where you came from :woohoo:

and even more scary with out God... damn straight people dont like the idea of when you are dead you are dead. I also prefer the idea of dancing in clouds one day :woohoo: I dont like the dead and stay dead part lol

Just want to note I am not picking a fight and am taking this in good humor :woohoo: :silly: