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Are Stromatopelma and Psalmopoeus somehow related?


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14 years 7 months ago #40154 by Roger Dixon
A few million years is nothing for species with highly conserved genes such as spiders. Many different taxa are found on both sides of the divide, some of which are the same! Insects and plants tend to be much more stable if the environment does not change too much, it is only us mammals which are so fickle. There is very little work done on spiders so far, compared to say birds, and when we start seeing what the genes tell us, I am sure there will be many surprises. Your observation is what created taxonomy - all we need is a bit more observation and a generous donor, then we can see whether the speculation is valid or not.

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14 years 7 months ago #40155 by Cameron Torode
It has not been proven/disproven that Africa and South America have been connected more recently (Like 6 to 10 thousand years ago). Who knows? Perhaps Pangae only split apart in the last few thousand years. It's entirely possible and there has been no evidence to disprove it or prove it. Humans have been traveling the globe for a few thousand years so maybe some S. Calceatum hitched a ride on a ship/boat from Africa to South America.

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14 years 7 months ago #40156 by Curtis
Thats true, they also have the same thickened "green feet" :whistle:

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14 years 7 months ago #40157 by Curtis

Panama wrote: I must say that although this is an interesting topic, i highly doubt they are related in any way.
The S. calceatum (unfortunately the only specie of the five available in the hobby) is an african Sp. while the Psalmopoeus genus is native primarily to the Americas. you could say that South America and Africa were once connected but Pangaea (The name of the mega-continent) separated a few million years ago into the continents we know today, long before these two genus' existed. I'm not an authority on this topic, but this is just my sense of this.
Im sure there are similarities across many different genus'
Lets see what the others have to say


It was once said by scientists that the earth was not always "broken up" into different continents, islands and what not, the ground we live on today was said to be all connected a long time ago(Africa, Asia, N.America,S.America etc)... So for all we know they could have been a couple thousand kms apart, with almost the same climate as one another but just different environments, hence the radical color difference I presume, all for adaptation and survival... :blink:

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14 years 7 months ago #40166 by Brynn Lurie

Curt wrote:

Panama wrote: I must say that although this is an interesting topic, i highly doubt they are related in any way.
The S. calceatum (unfortunately the only specie of the five available in the hobby) is an african Sp. while the Psalmopoeus genus is native primarily to the Americas. you could say that South America and Africa were once connected but Pangaea (The name of the mega-continent) separated a few million years ago into the continents we know today, long before these two genus' existed. I'm not an authority on this topic, but this is just my sense of this.
Im sure there are similarities across many different genus'
Lets see what the others have to say


It was once said by scientists that the earth was not always "broken up" into different continents, islands and what not, the ground we live on today was said to be all connected a long time ago(Africa, Asia, N.America,S.America etc)... So for all we know they could have been a couple thousand kms apart, with almost the same climate as one another but just different environments, hence the radical color difference I presume, all for adaptation and survival... :blink:


If you read my post again, you'll notice that we are saying the exact same thing. Google 'Pangaea' ;)


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14 years 7 months ago #40168 by Curtis

Panama wrote:

Curt wrote:

Panama wrote: I must say that although this is an interesting topic, i highly doubt they are related in any way.
The S. calceatum (unfortunately the only specie of the five available in the hobby) is an african Sp. while the Psalmopoeus genus is native primarily to the Americas. you could say that South America and Africa were once connected but Pangaea (The name of the mega-continent) separated a few million years ago into the continents we know today, long before these two genus' existed. I'm not an authority on this topic, but this is just my sense of this.
Im sure there are similarities across many different genus'
Lets see what the others have to say


It was once said by scientists that the earth was not always "broken up" into different continents, islands and what not, the ground we live on today was said to be all connected a long time ago(Africa, Asia, N.America,S.America etc)... So for all we know they could have been a couple thousand kms apart, with almost the same climate as one another but just different environments, hence the radical color difference I presume, all for adaptation and survival... :blink:


If you read my post again, you'll notice that we are saying the exact same thing. Google 'Pangaea' ;)


Well that settles it then ;)

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