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New draft Gauteng legislation


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12 years 5 months ago - 12 years 5 months ago #72995 by Martin Oosthuysen
Replied by Martin Oosthuysen on topic Re:New draft Gauteng legislation
Okay looking at the list so far, hope I understand what the question is but no where are blaptica dubias/Dubia roach mentioned nor blatta lateralis/Turkistan roaches can add meal worms/Tenebrio molitor as well.

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12 years 5 months ago #72996 by Martin Oosthuysen
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Also searching the act, I have found no mention of restrictions towards feeding insects to say other invertebrates.if I have missed anything, please paste the section where it was mentioned.

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12 years 5 months ago #72997 by Jason
Hi Martin

That is what makes the Gauteng legislation so confusing: as I understand it, and I am not a lawyer, provincial legislation trumps national on restrictions but not permissions, so that; If the national says you can keep something but the provincial says no, then no it is, but if the provincial says yes but national says no, then it stays no.
The other problem with the Gauteng bill is that, in theory, a law says you can do anything you want, bar these specific conditions, but this law says you can do these few things, everything else is off. To explain, if its an invertebrate, except alien scorps and tarantulas barring those 11 species, you can’t do anything with it. That means mealworms, roaches, whatever, an invertebrate is what they say it is.

And what they say it is is in the definitions:

“alien invertebrate” means an animal that does not have an internal skeleton, whether alive or dead and includes any part of such animal and any stage in the life cycle thereof belonging to a species or subspecies that is not a recognized domestic species and the natural distribution of which is not in the Republic of South Africa;

The only officially recognised domestic species of invertibrate that I am aware of is a silkworm, roaches etc. are not.

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12 years 5 months ago #72998 by Jason
And the new draft national (NEMBA) list want those 11 species blacklisted, ie. illegal. Does that help to clear it up?

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12 years 5 months ago - 12 years 5 months ago #72999 by Martin Oosthuysen
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If you read in the bill, it states all those listed in 67(1) which are the 11. Also in the gauteng bill, it states unrestricted alien invertebrates any not mentioned in 67(1). Look at the screenshots, even though a revision it still uses 67(1) as the basis. The words unrestricted alien species excluding those listed in 67(1), meaning they are restricted in 67(1).

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12 years 5 months ago #73000 by Jason
Indeed, verbatum:

Schedule 9
(Section 59(1))
Alien Invertebrates
All invertebrates alien to the Republic of South Africa, excluding those regulated and listed in terms of section 67(1) of the National Environmental Management: Biodiversity Act, 2004.

So NEMBA covers some, this picks up the rest.

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